If todays players suddenly had to revert to persimmon drivers, the best wou. On a perfectly hit shot, the our old wood drivers can get pretty close to the distance of todays modern drivers maybe 510 yards. Can a persimmon wood be reshafted by todays club repair man. The ping g400 drivers highdensity tungsten back weight and dragonfly technology help bring the combined moi heeltoe and highlow over 9,000 gram cm 2 for the first time and position the center of gravity lower and farther back than any current driver on the market making it the most forgiving driver in golf. From the frankly frog putting studio we respond to a viewer. The face of a persimmon driver does deform a little at impact but not very much and the resulting ball velocity off persimmon is dependent on the resilience of the ball head mass and head speed. Dec 08, 2017 in this persimmon driver test, gm digital editor neil tappin hits a 25 year old driver putting it up against his own titleist 917 d2. How far would a pga golfers of today hit a 1980 persimmons. With a persimmon driver, if you didnt hit it on the screws, it was anyones. The grip, shaft and head are lighter than standard, so you can swing.
Driver distance higher speed 150 mph ball speed, 107. In the mgs test, they kept rehitting the drivers and eliminating the mishits. Testing the performance of drivers of different eras. The d7 is about 30 grams lighter than the typical driver, but the way the weight is distributed helps boost distance. Honmas been making superpremium clubs for years but never had a significant presence in the u.
Buy new and used taylormade pittsburgh persimmon driver from the best golf shop. Compared to 252yard carry and 272 total distance with my titleist, thats a pretty significant change. If youre lucky enough to have a persimmon tree, youre guaranteed to have plenty of gorgeous persimmons come autumn. Our 2019 most wanted runnerup, by the slimmest of margins, the allaround performance of cobras f9 was better than exceptional. The word persimmon itself is derived from putchamin, pasiminan, or pessamin, from powhatan, an algonquian language of the eastern united states, meaning a dry fruit. Range balls and persimmon woods jan 29th, 2012 by persimmon golf today there is no doubt in my mind that the biggest challenge facing the burgeoning traditional golf movement is the loss of the wound ball.
In the real world this racks up the strokes on the card. Roughly onehalf the increase in distance % took place between the late persimmon early stainless steel drivers of the 1980s and the current titanium. Its the combination of the two, the high cor driver and the low spinning ball off the driver face that produces all the distance gains of the last 30 years or so. There are several ways you can achieve this, but one of the most reliable and the most affordable methods is investing in a golf ball that has been designed for distance. Three wood shaft 234 feet average 23 feet off line. Hello all, can a persimmon wood be reshafted by the normal club repair man. The coefficient of restitution measurement is always expressed as a number between 0.
Now think about this the average driver length on the pga tour since 2005 has remained steady at 44. Each golfer hit series of shots with their own driver and another with the persimmon driver. The mini driver is not a direct replacement for your driver, its not designed to go as far as the m5 or m6, its designed to offer you a club that gives you more distance and power off the tee. If one were to take a 45 inch driver, cut to 44 inches and then add 12grams of weight to match the swing weight at 45 would there be any noticeable difference in length off the tee. The early stainless steel drivers of the 1980s did not show increased distance over persimmon clubs of the 1970 and 80s. He did another test comparing 1998 driver and balls to 2018 driver and balls and it was 40 yards different. Benefit would be increased accuracy plus minimal loss of. Tiger woods, rory mcilroy take rips with 40yearold metal. Gear effect and the case for persimmon drivers louisville golf. Coefficient of restitution is a measurement of the energy loss or retention when two objects collide.
Also, will using todays harder golf ball slowly destroy the persimmon wood. These metrics including ball speed, distance carry and total, strokes gained, accuracy, and dispersion shot area. Driving distance on the pga tour has increased from the early 80s, when persimmon drivers were the primary club around 260 yards to today. Each era showed increases in distance with one exception. If youre working on transitioning from a threewood or threeiron, but not. And this whole thing with the nitrogen sounded real gimmicky. Taylormade pittsburgh persimmon driver 2nd swing golf. I was only able to carry the persimmon driver 219 yards for a total distance of 238 on average. When he switched to the tour balata and the old driver, he hit that. The leading average driver in 1980, dan pohl hit it 274. May 09, 2011 persimmon driver for distance and accuracy.
With a more appropriate and modern driver and work on flexibility, 300 will come. The other assumption is that the 220y length of a titanium driver would only be 202y, if it was made to the same length and weight of a persimmon. Our team consists of skilled club makers producing persimmon drivers, fairway woods and putters. Or does it have to go to the seasoned persimmon expert.
Persimmon golf produce some of the finest golf clubs, maintaining a tradition for the many thousands of persimmon fans who demand the experience and pleasure of playing with modern highperformance persimmon golf clubs. First, the modern drivers average was hurt by a couple of truly awful mishits. Coming from experience of swinging a persimmon steel shafted driver as part of my regular practice routine i can tell you that you need solid contact to get any decent distance out of the ball. Jun 29, 2015 when looking at the group average, the modern driver was 30 yards ahead of the persimmon driver and yards ahead of the driver from the 90s. Originally, the driver was only slightly larger than any other wood and was designed to be used from the tee or the fairway, but with the advent of hollow metal clubhead construction, the driver has become highly specialized.
I am noticing that most of the persimmon woods that are available are with the regular shaft. However, by producing 20 yards more distance with a tighter. Notice our flightscope report shows 8 shots, thats because we removed the best and worst shot of each test session to get averages as accurate as possible. A brief history of the golf club popular mechanics. Compared to 252yard carry and 272 total distance with my titleist, thats a. As you would expect the results were fairly dramatic as well here. To determine the most wanted driver, we look at a variety of performance metrics based on data collected with foresight gcquad launch monitors. For the ping g400 driver test, jon used the same shaft, project x hzrdus black 6.
In this persimmon driver test, gm digital editor neil tappin hits a 25 year old driver putting it up against his own titleist 917 d2. Available in standard, draw bias and offset drivers. Thomas, my good friend and commissioner of my fantasy football league, recently found his way to persimmon golf today all on his own. I dont advertise or advocate much in the real world so he didnt even know i was involved with this site you can imagine he was a bit surprised. Recently we performed a fun test comparing older golf clubs and balls versus. Tiger woods weighs in on distance debate, bifurcation. I purchased a persimmon driver, blade iron, and some older golf balls off ebay just to. Rather than 270 yards representing a big swat with a driver, longer hitters are eclipsing that mark with 5woods and.
Put an old steel shaft in your ti driver and see how far it goes then put your graphite shaft in a persimmon driver and see how far it goes. Woods pointed out the dramatic changes in carry distance hes seen over time. Additionally, the ball speeds were very different 9mph versus 151 mph. They are beautifully finished with a red face insert and a deep mahogany stain that shows the gorgeous persimmon grain. The tree diospyros kaki is the most widely cultivated species of persimmon. Driving distance on the pga tour has increased from the early 80s, when persimmon drivers were the primary club around 260 yards to today when the primary driving club is titanium about 287 yards. Are titanium drivers really that much better than wood.
I was a little afraid of hitting hard range balls with the wood driver, so for this test i dug. A driver without any discernable weakness, in addition to its strong performance, our testers rated the f9 highly for looks, feel and sound. Another thing hinted at but perhaps unclear to the the tests authors, the traditional persimmon head has several. And with a distance advantage of more than 20 yards with the driver, the test suggests that average players might want to rethink their attitude toward the 3wood see page 107. I started playing golf with a wood driver and quickly found my way into the. I cringe at the prices of good wound balls on ebay, but its a price im willing to pay and try to get as much use out of 3 to 4 dozen a. Testing the performance of drivers of different eras miles. I am playing a titleist 917 d3 driver with an aftermarket shaft from accra, so this is some of the best equipment that modern design has to offer. The early stainless steel drivers of the 1980s did not show increased distance over persimmon clubs. The tw737 is a legit highlaunch, lowspin offering that keeps spin rates down via a. View more property details, sales history and zestimate data on zillow. A persimmon driver isnt going to have the same kind of pop at impact that a modern metalwood has. Dustin johnson hit jack nicklaus old persimmon driver 290.
Find 33 photos of the 2541 persimmon dr home on zillow. Their shot circles with the persimmon and 1990s drivers dwarf those of the. Mizunos most advanced driver to date, the st 190 is aimed at pleasing any player who wants easy launch and a ton of ball speed off the strike area. To test the two against each other, i hit 10to15 shots with each driver, doing my best to create the same swing and launch conditions for both clubs, and let the numbers tell the story. Our test group had a number of very strong players who really preferred. So when i was asked to test the new powerbilt air force one dfx tour driver, i was a bit skeptical that it would be able to match the performance of the big boys. Find golf club tradein and resales values for over 4,000 models of used golf clubs at the pga value guide, from leading manufacturers such as callaway, taylormade, taylor made, titleist, ping, odyssey, nike, cleveland, mizuno, cobra, adams, wilson. How hard is it to hit and how much of a difference did it.
Because of these differences one can use a higher lofted titanium driver and launch the ball higher with less spin than its persimmon counterpart giving one another 58 yards. The driver provides the most distance of any golf club in the bag or, perhaps. The best drivers of 2019this is the year of the driver. Its tests show that youll receive seven yards of draw bias versus last. New variable weight technology provides up to 30 more yards for senior men and women with slow swing speeds. When chad campbell recently tested an old driver and ball, his drives were. Unfollow persimmon driver to stop getting updates on your ebay feed. These differences, of lower spin and increased ball speed will, by themselves, result in at least 10 11 yards increase in distance. There are several ways you can achieve this, but one of the most reliable and the most affordable methods is investing in a golf ball that has been designed for distance to make finding the perfect product much easier we have created a list where you can find the best golf ball for distance and we. Our persimmon woods are made from 100% usa grown persimmon trees. Are titanium drivers really that much better than wood drivers. Sep 02, 2015 ive never struck a golf ball with an actual wood driver let alone heard of a citation persimmon driver. Persimmon 182 feet average 18 off line three wood shaft 234 feet average 23 feet off line driver shaft 315 feet average 31 off line on my andrew rice golf facebook page i asked readers if they had any experience with shortening the shaft of their driver and here are a few of their responses. Higher clubhead speed players had a greater percentage increase in distance.
Range balls and persimmon woods persimmon golf today. Those long drive guys with their 460cc drivers can get away with a small mishit but cant get get away with a persimmon club. Injury is the biggest distance loser, and tour pros are most vulnerable. Open championship, many of the pga tours young players hit a persimmon driver outfitted. The test, says just, is a confirmation of what louisville golf has believed since 1996 when its original driver outhit callaways great big bertha. Interestingly, the modern driver was edged out by our 2000s driver. The 1wood, or driver, is the lowestlofted, longest, and often lightest club in a players bag, and is meant to launch the ball the longest distance of any club. Driver data was collected for 8 golfers 6 males and 2 females 2 golfers had swing speeds in the 70s, 2 in the 80s, 2 in the 90s and 2 in the 100s. We believe metal woods may help the average golfer by offering a greater distance on your average shot, but persimmon can help make a golfer. When looking at the group average, the modern driver was 30 yards ahead of the persimmon driver and yards ahead of the driver from the 90s. It usually stands erect, but sometimes can be crooked or have a willowy appearance the leaves are 715 centimetres 2.
Nov 24, 2005 put an old steel shaft in your ti driver and see how far it goes then put your graphite shaft in a persimmon driver and see how far it goes. Its in the average distances and dispersion where weve seen a big difference probably 2030 yards shorter on average because the less than perfect shots with persimmon really hurt the averages. They are available in 11 driver, 2wood, 16 3wood, 18 4wood and 21 5wood. Alan shepard takes one small swing for a man, one giant drive for mankind when he hits two golf balls on the moon at the end of the apollo 14. Clubhead speed is 112 with that same old driver and distance is about 280. Enjoy renewed distance and more forgiveness in an easy to swing driver. These are the last players to win a major with persimmon. When he switched to the old byron nelson persimmon driver but kept the current ball, his average driver was 37 yards shorter. If driving distance wasnt a problem in 2003 why is it today.
Jan 04, 2002 the test, says just, is a confirmation of what louisville golf has believed since 1996 when its original driver outhit callaways great big bertha. Testing the performance of drivers of different eras miles of golf. Linksoul persimmon wood driver robot test duration. I was a little afraid of hitting hard range balls with the wood driver, so for this test i dug into the shag bag and pulled out some old tournament golf balls. He was one of six players to average over 270 yards. Who wouldnt want to add yards to their initial drive. On my andrew rice golf facebook page i asked readers if they had any experience with shortening the shaft of their driver and here are a few of. In reverence to arnold palmer and his famous shot at cherry hills that propelled him to the 1960 u. Nov 24, 2005 in an unrelated test two months ago at golf laboratories inc. I also totaled the distance after roll the ten shots with each club finished from the center line. Scott hit eight of 14 fairways in the first round at sawgrass, and averaged 297 yards off the tee a decrease of seven yards against. We all know the golf ball is going a lot further now than it did 20 years ago and yet we judge persimmon on this.